Cait
Hello, and welcome to today’s episode of The Born to Rise podcast. Today’s guest is Taj Savitri, leading influencer of regenerative living a Mexican priestess and creator of transformational experiences for deepening into one’s feminine heart. Held at her community. She co founded called Mother Tree in Tulum, Mexico. As a successful business owner, Tasha is passionate about integrating and educating others on giving back in ways that create a new way for humanity and override hyper consumerism, in private coaching. She’s supporting and serving as a guide in deepening into the heart intimacy and vulnerability, cultivating creativity and the truest expression of femininity. Guys, you are going to love this conversation with Taj I felt like I was sitting down and having a cup of tea with like a bestie. She’s so wise so grounded. And I think that what she does in the world and the conversation that we have moving from sustainability and business to regeneration is one that is so far overdue. So listening, let us know your biggest takeaway send me a DM I would love to know if you were impacted by this episode and what most stuck out to you. And as a reminder, go ahead and take a minute it would mean the world to me if you would leave a review for us on iTunes, Spotify. Leave us a review you guys, we have so many 1000s of loyal listeners every month and I always forget to ask you guys to leave a review. But it seriously helps so much. It allows us to keep producing the show inviting really high quality guests, and it makes such a big difference. So if you could take a moment to leave us a review on iTunes, I would be so grateful. Without further ado, y’all. Here is my conversation with Taj. I am so freaking excited about our guest today on the show Taj Savitri, Taj, thank you so much for being here. I’m so excited to be here. I know. I feel like you’re already soul sister. And we like literally have talked for two minutes. And I just feel this like such resonance with you.

Taj
Yeah, I’m ready to go deeper.

Cait
Okay, great. I love it. I’ll be back. We’ve been holding back just for now, we’ve been circling around the edges of like, small talk while we get all the tech setup. And now we’re gonna dive in. So for our people who are watching or listening on the podcast, tell us about you and what you do. i It’s really interesting. So I, I’m gonna actually before I let you answer the question that I just asked, I need to give you a little bit of backstory. So I was having a conversation with my team. And we were like, had this really beautiful internal meeting and I was like, I want to really be intentional about people that have a super aligned set of values that we want to start to collaborate with start to connect with start to build relationships with I’m such a believer that our businesses grow not from all the like hectic funnels, and whatever, but through relationships. And one of I remember, I think it was either my podcast manager or somebody else in my teams and being like, do you know this woman Taj? She’s super cool. She lives in Mexico. I’m like, No, I have no idea who that is. And then literally, it was the same week another I think a client brought your name up. And I was like, That’s memorable because not everyone’s name is Taj. And then they mentioned that you lived in Mexico and then somewhere else like someone either like shared a post of yours and I’m like, Okay universe and this was all within like, a few days I’m like, Thank you, universe, I hear you I need to connect with Taj. And then boom, here you are. And so I’m, I am so happy to be introduced to your world and to be sharing your amazing work with my audience and just just have this beautiful conversation about the intersections that you’re bringing together in such a powerful way. Your work, so I wanted to just share with you, my world before you introduce to everybody here what it is that you do.

Taj
Wow, I love I love hearing about stories like that because it just means that there’s just information to be shared with our communities that that cross cross pollination No pun intended. Yeah, but yeah, the the cross pollination of information of us learning from each other, and I really love that divine guidance. So that’s really cool. And it was it was your podcast manager. Yeah.

Cait
Yes, I think it was. Yeah, it was.

Taj’s story and how she got to the place she is today

Taj
Yeah, she’s super cool. Um, so I’m Taj Savitri. I’m actually like super in transition of like, what’s my work in the world? How do I want to give to myself? After experiencing what I call, like, the biggest death cycle of my life, like 18 plus months of just one thing after another happening one thing after another going through, yeah, just deep initiations. And it actually started with a miscarriage, which was, yeah, that was probably now almost two years ago, probably about two years ago. And that was my first like, major, major burnout in my business. And I, you know, like, as soon as I started my business, I was rockin I was 75k, the first month, multiple, six figures next year, multiple six figures, the next year, and even last year, being a very difficult year for me was the highest I’ve done in my business. And that was kind of like the first physical manifestation of my burnout. Sometimes we’re burned out, we don’t even realize it. So then I, you know, I had my burnout, I had my whole miscarriage experience, and then I kind of went on to business because that’s just kind of what you do, you know, you don’t really stop, we don’t really take time to stop and heal, and to really look at, like, why this happened, you know, and then carried on. carried on, and then I had another experience, I had a puppy actually passed away. And it was just, it was, like, so tragic. And it’s not something I’ve really shared publicly, but it was it was it broke me, it really broke me, she basically passed away from seizures. And it was like, night after night, moment, and like, there weren’t really pauses in between. And she was having her her seizures. And it just, it broke something and me seeing something so innocent, go through something so tragic. And so I was dueling her death, essentially, wow. And you know, of course, moving to Tulum from a Western culture, which is very sterile, you have all the colors, you could ever want anything, all the flavors you could ever want in anything. And everything’s provided for you moving to a country where there’s like holes in the road and dogs everywhere and poverty, but also luxury and beautiful oceans, but also trash everywhere. And it’s so much for the nervous system to adjust to. So I spent a whole year just in process around that. So you know, I have been teaching women who have spiritual gifts who are here to do incredible work in the world how to grow and scale their businesses. But after that whole experience, what I found was actually right now currently more more passionate about connecting to the earth, which is this whole regenerative conversation that we’re going to have, and what it’s taught me about myself, but it’s taught me about business, but it’s taught me actually not even about business, because business is busyness, about creation. And that’s what we do as feminine you knowing like you’re pregnant, you already have one child like we are here to create, and we create through our purpose. And we create beauty on this planet through our purpose. And so what I saw a lot of what I was moving through was imbalance I believe everything happens from within, you know, the whole world of manifestation where we’re creating from within, we’re visualizing, we’re doing the affirmations, and the mantra and the inner inner worlds work, but it’s actually very shamanic. And so it is very shamanic. And it is an if anybody is familiar with shamanism, it’s related to how we’re journeying with our inner archetypes, and also how we’re journeying with nature, the natural world. So I’m bridging a lot of that in my work, and there’s pieces that haven’t quite landed yet but you know, the core of what I’m focusing right now on is inner union and how your I call it like the power couple is relating to each other from within, so that you can actually create from magnetism because your masculine is feeling supported. And vice versa. You know, instead of having resentment towards the masculine and then kind of bypassing, you know, a lot of the arguments that are taking place within you so that you can move forward in a way that’s really sustainable.

Cait
Yes, that’s so beautiful, and there’s so many juicy nuggets there that I feel like we could just go in so many different directions but so much yes to the creation conversation and how essential it actually is to be in the place. of recognizing the right now Enos of being able to activate your gifts like it’s not from a place of just hear from the headspace from the mind. And I feel like so much in this space we’re taught or we’re shown, like use your mindset or use these specific tools. Yeah, create the business, get the strategy by the box by the framework and love, there’s like a couple of different things that you said, I mean, even relating shamanism and nature in the body. And these are elements that I feel it’s so refreshing to hear you bringing these forward in a conversation about business, because I feel like these are things that we’ve been kind of that have been lacking in the conversation, quite frankly, in industry that have been, you know, thought about as secondary. And I mean, with the birth process, the body is like, you know, that is the thing. Creation, it’s like, wild to me how much like, their body just knows what to do. There’s no, I don’t have to think about anything like the body just absolutely knows what to do. In business. And one thing that I really appreciate about you Taj is even coming on here being like, hi, yah, these are like the things I’m in a death cycle. And these are the pieces that I’m trying to bridge and that I’m in the conversation with. And there’s something so profoundly refreshing about that kind of leadership. It’s like, Hey, I’m in an exploration, like, these are my areas of mastery. These are my areas of inquiry that are my, this is where I’m moving to, and I don’t have it all figured out. But this is what I’m synthesizing. And I’m just like, I feel like my whole body relaxed, as you said that, oh, like, I just think it’s so beautiful. And it’s Yeah, well, it’s, this is the kind of leadership that we need. This is the kind of leadership that’s like, truly, you know, you’re on the edge of something new that hasn’t been done before. When you’re like, Hey, I’m pioneering this. I don’t know what it means. I don’t know how it all fits together. But I know it all fits together. And this is what we’re doing them.

Taj
Yeah. My projector itself feels so seen. Thank you so much.

Cait
You’re welcome. Well, my manifestor itself is like, created tell you everything.

Taj
Thank you so much. Yeah, it’s, it’s, um, I feel like my head is like, out and I just need another push. You know, like, that’s really what it feels like. And I really appreciate appreciate you seeing me in that way. Because I do believe as well, it’s, it’s hard to embodied leadership, it’s authentic. It’s raw, it’s real. It’s the human, you know, the human moving through life having its its experience, and we are a beautiful divine creatures, but majority of the time we’re working out our human stuff, and we’re receiving the information and we’re bridging that as, you know, one would say Creatrix is and don’t go too deep into all of these, you know, trendy terms anymore, but you know, that’s truly what we are. And so yeah, there’s so much there’s so much there that is really beautiful. And you know, at the same time, as as leaders, we really are like pioneering a new way and we’re gonna fuck up. It’s gonna be messy. It’s gonna be awkward. And it really brings me back to like, Brene Brown, one of her quotes, you probably know where she’s like, if you’re not in the arena getting messy, then I don’t really want to hear from you. I totally don’t have when I heard that. I was like, oh, yeah, you know, because leadership is like, I’m trying this out. I’m figuring out a new way for everybody. I’m bringing forward something that’s actually really important for us to look at to be with integrate, so that we can really do our work in the world, not just for ourselves, for our families for our personal goals, but for humanity.

Cait
Yeah, so powerful. I love that so much. And on that, you know, in terms of like being in the arena and getting messy and figuring it out and pioneering something new I would love for you to share more with us. I mean, there’s so many things that you’ve shared already that I want to circle back on, but to talk with us more about the conversation of regeneration and how it relates to business and how it relates to your personal life. I think your Do you have a regenerative farm? Did I see that? Yeah, that’s so cool. Okay, separately. I’m gonna like need to talk to you about setting that up because we are also building on our property. Beautiful subject. So fun, and we’ve just like, dove headfirst into that anyway, that kind of separate thing. Oh, other layer? Yes, that homestead life. I’m like, Okay, I can’t keep houseplants alive, but we are going to have a farm. Same girl saying, Oh, good. Okay. I feel so much better. Yeah. Talk to talk to us about you know, I just, I mean, we see this so much in all All the different areas and even the way that you’re describing to loom it’s very similar to how Bali was this like extraordinary contrast of like lushness, verdant, overflowing, dripping with life, you know, bursting life. And then this contrast that is really born from non- regenerative ways of living and operating in the world. And Where has your passion for regeneration with like land and Earth influenced your way of looking at doing business?

The conversation of regeneration and how does that relate to business and Taj’s life

Taj
Wow, such a beautiful, like, I’m just like, ready to dive in? Because it’s such a, I think it’s, I think it’s a conversation that’s slowly starting to be had amongst people. But I do feel like the embodiment piece is really important for us to actually understand what that is. So I’m really excited to hear that you’re doing that I think it’s important that we learn how to grow our own food, even if we don’t know how to keep like, I’m looking at a plant in front of me, it’s like, I don’t know what’s going on with it, you know, but I know what’s going on in our farm. You know, like, I know what’s going on there. We also have, we also have a team that consults us as well. Like, we also get to hire and create the jobs and support the jobs that have people who are masters at their craft and sit there and to be humble students and learn from them, you know? Yes. So I actually grew up on a farm when I was younger, in I think it was like Missouri. So my, my grandfather was a farmer, I would ride around on a tractor with him and run through cornfields. And there were some of my favorite memories as a little girl. And I think it’s where I started to, you know, are so open and so deeply connected to source at that point, I think that’s where I really started to come into a lot of my gifts and more of like the shamanic abilities that I have now. And, you know, fast forward, we go through life, and we kind of lose track of you know, what really nourishes us. And now I’m here somehow here, in Tulum, Mexico, we have a food forest, we have a beautiful greenhouse, it’s like more like it is a greenhouse, but it’s also like a work of art. It’s a piece of art. I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but it’s, it’s something that will be in magazines, and people who have, you know, locals who grow their food basically, out of the ground, they see. And they’re like, why, and we’re like, why not? You know, it’s beauty. We want our we want our food to be in the frequency of beauty as well, you know, because there’s just this whole cycle around, like, who touches our food, who grows, grows our food, are they happy, or is the surrounding a peaceful environment, because it’s sensitive, we put that in our bodies, and that’s what gives us life. That’s what gives us that life force that keeps us going. And it can either harm us, it can either cause cancer because of what sprayed on it or, you know, the energy that it’s been in. Or it can help us heal, expand our consciousness, be more clear channels for what wants to come through, whether it’s ideas, creations, solutions to problems. And so, you know, as I was going through this whole, you know, actually, so the community is called Mother Tree. And it was actually born out of my miscarriage, I received a download a message, this is what the name is going to be, it’s going to be in Tulum. And, you know, there’s so many different layers to it, Mother Tree is on the same ley line as Koba and the Egyptian pyramids. So I believe that we have come out here, even though sometimes it’s not the easiest place to live. And there’s a lot of consumerism, and there’s also a lot of beauty. But I believe that we’ve we’ve come out here to teach people a different way, a new way, and to anchor anchor this consciousness into this Leyland ley line on the earth. And so we have created this community, we’re still building. Right now we’re almost done with our gym, which again, is like work, a work of art, everything is so beautifully created. But when I was going through this whole process, this whole death process, I was at the farm a lot, I was checking in on, you know, the progress and what’s going on. And I started to notice that when we were creating our food forest, the way that they planted everything was in a way that you know, the bananas support the peppers, because the bananas provide shade for the peppers to grow. And the peppers you know, help break up the soil for the bananas to keep growing. So regenerative essentially means to, to have like to have this element of everything continuing to feed each other to give back to one another to co create to work together, which is very different than sustainable. So I believe we’re actually moving away and I’ve noticed that we’re where people are starting to catch on to this a little bit sustainable is just sustaining. It’s It’s like we’re just making sure the ship doesn’t sink at this point. You know? So even I can even circle back a bit and say I don’t necessarily think that I want to continue to teach and educate women on sustaining a business because that means that we’re surviving, we’re not thriving. When we’re in a regenerative business, that means that we’re continuing to give back. And when we continue to give back through the laws of the universe, or the laws of creation, we’re always in receiving, maybe it’s not always monetary, but we’re receiving, you know, in some ways our remembrance or connection to the earth and how you know, everything is important in its cycle and how it works together. So,yes, we’re getting bees, like we’re getting bees, like 20, hives, in a couple months. And I’m pretty sure like part of my job is going to be doing what I’m doing online, and also be a beekeeper like, There’s something so cool about it. And so we went to Mexico City, we did a beekeeping immersion with this man who is doing something small and similar in Mexico City. And he was educating us on the connection between the flowers, the honey, the bees, and like how that cycle works together. And it’s really profound, it’s really profound to see how everything in nature, and we are in nature, everything naturally wants to help support each other in growth. Again, not in a sustainable way, but in a way where it’s like, we teach people how to make money and to grow their businesses so that they can, you know, support their families to create more jobs, which is something I’m very passionate about. But I also don’t think it stops at that point. It’s like, okay, great, we’re making so much money these days, how are we taking, you know, a fraction of a portion of what we make and putting that back into the environment into movements that we care about. And it could be anything, you know, there’s imagine it this way, like, we teach everyone how to make money, have their own businesses, and it’s incredible, I think everybody should have their own business. It’s amazing. And also, let’s take it a step further. And the one thing that they really care about, or they feel passionate about whether it’s water, whether it is supporting the, you know, keeping bees alive and flourishing, whether it’s pollution, if they take a small portion of that and put it some portion of what they make and put it towards that, then we’re all actively working on the world’s problems. It’s not our problem. But it is our problem, because we’re the ones that are gonna have to, you know, our future generations are gonna have to live with what we didn’t decide to be proactive about and take care of. So it’s about living in a way creating in a way, embodying a way that is in continuous service. And, like giving from that overflow, just because we can just like the banana leaves, it’s like the leaves are so big, they just naturally create shade for the peppers, you know.

Cait
Yes, I love that. And I love that you use that analogy of the bananas and the peppers. It reminds me I’m sure you’ve read it. Have you read the book? Braiding sweetgrass?

Taj
I knew you were gonna say that and no I haven’t actaully.

Cait
Oh, my God. Okay, you you really do there’s this beautiful chapter in there called the Three Sisters. And it’s all about the relationship between the beans, the corns and the squash and how I like have chills as we’re talking about this and how the intelligence of the natural world and not only like combined do they make a complete like the complete nutrition that we need to survive as humans? Yeah, but but in the soil and in a way that they grow and interrelate with one another. They provide exactly what they need. And I think that it’s so interesting, like even I’ve been in this industry now like five years, and it’s been interesting to watch the waves and cycles of what’s trending, what’s popular to talk about. You know, I feel like we’re wealth is really having a moment right now. And it’s been having a moment for like, like, the wealth in codes and you know, whatever. And money’s great wealth is great, we love wealth, what I think is so beautiful about what you’re describing about the difference between regeneration and sustainability is like the inherent non trending eternal engrained into the way the natural cycles and rhythms of life that like what abundance actually is what overflow actually means. Like, we’re not talking about like quick ways for a cash infusion. We’re talking about the profound wisdom of more than enoughness when we don’t separate ourselves into these like siloed divisions and I think about the bananas and the peppers and the way that it all comes back to them. And the bees in the pollination and like Yeah, I know I shared this with you before we started going live i I’ve been in a I was in a mastermind all of last year, and then continuing that work with this mentor this year, all about regenerative agriculture and business so I’m like I’ve been speaking your language girlfriend. And it’s been so fascinating because a lot of these themes that you’re describing has been has been really top of mind for me, as I’ve been thinking about how I run a business, how I coach other women to run their businesses, like the kinds of questions that we need to be thinking. And I love that you describe the importance of beauty in the past of building, I think that’s a really easy thing to to miss and to overstep and yet, so integral to how we feel whether it is like how we feel in our garden picking our food, or how we feel in our businesses, like, are we showing up to something that feels luscious? And beautiful? And has the frequency like you’re describing of lusciousness? And love? Or is it something that feels like heavy and hard? And it’s like, didn’t we all start our businesses so that we didn’t have to be in like, boxy pinstripe suits?

What is the Beauty Way? 

Taj
Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Oh, my God, I love this. And I want to hear about this mastermind a little bit more later. But yeah, it’s, um, beauty is, you know, there’s this, this, I don’t know exactly what to call it, it’s a it’s a native, I want to, you know, give credit to the, the natives for this. It’s like this way of seeing life, this way of engaging with life called the beauty way. And it’s really about, like, be having the ability to sit down and to see beauty and to feel full by the beauty that you see in your environment. And beauty is something that inspires us out of pain inspires us out of grief, you know, especially during these times, where, you know, there’s literally like, World War Three happening. I mean, it’s been happening in different ways, like illogical ways, but now it’s actually physically happening. And so, you know, it’s an important time for artistry to be online to be alive. Because it’s going to be something that opens up opens up our minds to new possibility to you know, just like visualization, art opens up our mind to to say, Okay, this structure, this beautiful flower, you know, the way and even seeing beauty and like the ways that the bees, you know, engage with the flowers, like opening up different our minds of different ways of living, to, you know, so much that makes an impression on us from just the visual world that we’re receiving from. Yeah, so. So it’s, it’s definitely something that I think is very important. And, you know, again, always coming back to nature, it’s like, the fruits, like, there’s so much diversity, there’s so much color, there’s so much beauty, there’s so much texture, and every tomato looks different, especially tomatoes, every tomato, they really have like a little bit of this color. And this one has a little bit of color. And it’s like how can we celebrate the beauty of diversity? How can we celebrate what you know, what is what is the beauty of the natural world and infuse that into everything that we do?

Cait
I love that so much and so beautiful to be living in such close proximity because you have created it, and have these metaphors and reminders, not only as metaphors and reminders, but literally as literal life sustainers for you, that can show you and teach you okay, not only how do we celebrate this in the natural world, but how do I celebrate this in business? How do I celebrate this in the diversity of my team? How do I celebrate this in the way that you know, mutual support systems exist in the infrastructure that I’m building, but also, you know, share and teach to my clients about how they’re growing and building. And as you were talking about beauty ties, I was reminded again, of what you were sharing before about, you know, this inner marriage between masculine and feminine. And I think about, you know, the beauty of the feminine and that and that essence of just this generous beauty. I don’t know how else to say it. Talk to us a little bit more about that edge of your work right now. And, and how how the feminine and the masculine, not as like external archetypes, but internal archetypes, things that we all whether we’re male or female hold and how embracing those two parts of ourselves and integrating those in a really powerful way can support us to be more I don’t want to say sustaining but regenerative in the way that we live in the way that we work in the way that we earn and the way that we lead.

Getting to know your Inner Man and masculine archetypes

Taj
Thank you. You’re such a good listener. Thank you so much. And you’ve got so you’ve got so many mama codes coming through. I really love it. Yeah, so this has been a very valuable exploration of I have mine. I’m actually in a study right now of, of my inner man getting to know my inner man and the archetype that resides is a part of me and it’s profound. It’s incredible. You know, in in that relationship as as a female bodied you know, women it’s, it’s our nap it’s like our default we’re always going to be primarily in the archetype and you know, within like so many archetypes even within just like femininity, the The Goddess, the priestess, the seductress. You know, like so many different archetypes that we get to work with. But we, because of that, the masculine is kind of like way over here, and we have our archetypes that are within him within ourselves. And so, you know, I’ve been finding that a lot of my wounding has actually come from a lot of my overdoing a lot of the Overcompensation the scattered Enos, the need to achieve and and over consume has actually come from my unintegrated masculine. And this is why I think this work is so important, because what we’re seeing, and I think this could possibly be a little triggering, for some people is, a lot of women running businesses, and they say it’s feminine, but it’s not, we’re just putting a bandaid on it. And we’re saying it’s feminine, it’s the shell of femininity, but it’s not actually integrated with the the co creation and the marriage of the masculine. It’s, it’s because of years and years and years of suppression, years of us feeling like we were kind of I mean, we couldn’t vote until what, like 30 years ago, or something like it was pretty recent, you know, and so there’s this, this underbelly, it’s like the underbelly of the beasts of the beautiful work that we get to do, which is empowerment, which is wealth, which is the rise of the feminine. But there’s also this weird thing that’s happening, and it’s a damaging thing that’s happening where it is, it is, and I actually had a male friend say this, to me, he’s like, you know, it’s kind of like this punishment is a subconscious conscious punishment of like the hoarding of the money and the resources and not giving from the overflow. It’s a subconscious punishment of all the years of not being able to have what we now have. So we’re seeing a lot of, like, a consumerism, it’s, you know, consumerism exists everywhere, I always use like Coca Cola, and all these big brands and companies, and they’re polluting and the plastic and all this stuff. But now we’re just shifting into a different industry. And so it’s very, very important that we pay attention to this, and we get really honest with ourselves about where we’re at, in our relationship to our Feminine Empowerment. And if we’re being kind of superficial about it, you know, coming back to that connection to nature, which is natural, it’s our roots. And if we’re missing that, if we’re not giving back to Mother to Mother Earth, then, you know, in many ways, we’re not being grateful, we’re not being in gratitude for all that she provides all that she receives. And if we cut her out of the equation, and we skip over to the Gucci bags, and to the shell, that that were being influenced and cattle to be in, then, you know, we’re actually creating more damage through our empowerment. And so, you know, that’s kind of one one side of it, one side of it, and that a lot of that relates to our relationship with the masculine, you know, how how did we feel abandoned by our fathers now, to the point where we feel like we need to, like prove ourselves and to make up for what the stability that we didn’t receive in childhood, which is part of my story, I didn’t have a lot of money growing up, my father left to hide abandonment stuff. So basically, up until, you know, this is something that I got to see through my deep, deep death process was most of my business was fueled by survival, because I didn’t have my father there to support me financially in that way. So the masculine is the provider in the family, but it’s also the provider within ourselves. So it’s important, again, to look at that relationship within ourselves and is, is our, you know, like, what’s the dynamic is masculine, they’re over compensating, overdoing, and not paying attention to what’s happening in the feminine, which is like, Whoa, I don’t want to go that fast. Like, can you pay attention to my needs, you know, but we’re, oh, a lot of a lot of women are overriding that, you know, we just we skipped to the bubble baths. We skipped to the beautiful, you know, manicures and all that. And I love all of that stuff. I do I really, really do. I love you know what some would say luxury actually shifted into beauty because luxury again, is just scratching the surface beauty is like, underneath, and it’s like the depths of who we are. We’re beautiful, beautiful beings that can do incredible things in the world luxury, it’s like, yeah, it’s like, the way that I see it. Yeah, it’s like it’s the shell. It’s like the purse but What’s inside the purse? You know, what are the beautiful things? Like, you know, like, who made it? Were they happy? You know, are they getting paid? Well, and so really pay attention to, you know that that ripple that’s created. So it’s very multi dimensional. So, you know, I guess that’s the way that I’ll leave it there. And then we can open it up a little bit. If you want to.

Cait
So beautiful ties your I’m like, Yes, I’m just like over here. Yes, yes, yes to everything you’re saying. And it was so interesting to me is the way that you so eloquently described like, the and I don’t know if you would use this language, but like the the kind of shadow aspects of both the masculine and the feminine of like, No, we can still be like, really out of alignment as like, Feminine Empowerment, coaches, workers, facilitators, brands, whatever. And that can be run like subconsciously be run from an internal place of like, a really desperate feminine, who’s just like trying to grip on or like, manipulate or control or like an out of aligned inner masculine that’s like I need to be in overdrive, to provide I think, even just naming those internal dynamics brings such an exhale to our listeners to get curious about like, what, like, who not only what in you, but like who in you is running your business? Yeah, when you is making the decisions. And, and getting really curious about what kind of like what’s under the hood?

Taj
Oh, yeah. And it’s, it’s really fun. It’s a really fun process, it can be a very triggering process as well. When we start to like, yes, I would use the word shadows, and we start to become aware of the shadows that are within us. And it’s, it’s a process, it takes time. And it is really important to slow down. Because when we’re going so quickly, and our nervous systems are so spiked, it’s actually a lot harder to see the shadows, it’s actually a lot harder to be compassionate and loving and nurturing towards the parts that just really want attention and integration. And sometimes we have to slow down to speed up. And that’s really the face that I’m I’m in myself.

Cait
Yes, this is so beautiful. And it brings rise to a question that I didn’t even know that I wanted to ask you, but asking you what, what would you say to somebody? Who, what, okay, I’m gonna ask the question, but I want to give it some context. It feels very much to me Taj, like everything that you’re bringing forward from this, like, hey, we can’t leave out the context on which all of this digital infrastructure is built, which is the natural world and like, we’re not paying attention to mama, we’re missing, like the wisdom that we come from. Yeah. And if we’re not paying attention to our inner masculine and feminine, like, we’re missing out on so much richness available to us, it feels very much to me, like, some of the codes that you are bringing through are really about healing and like healing our relationship to Earth, healing our relationship to our self, healing our relationship to the way that we run business. And I’m curious what you would say to your clients, or to anybody that you work with, who has a lot of resistance, who’s like, dammit, how’s your business coach, I hired you because I want to like a six figure launch, or I hired you because I want to, like have this external result and the like, resistance point of going inward and doing more of this shamanic, this inward this nature focus, like, what would you say to somebody who is on the edge or on the brink? or listening to this interview and feeling both like extremely magnetized and pulled, and also triggered and being like, dammit, like, I thought I was signing up to just learn how to like, be super successful. And I’m doing that in air quotes. But what I really need to do is like, date my inner masculine or heal my inner feminine or go like, learn about bananas and peppers, like literally like that you want to, like that’s what you have to do. I’m curious how you meet somebody in both their desire and potentially resistance to going inward because as I think is so overwhelmingly apparent in this conversation, like that’s where the real results come from. That’s where true longevity and power and regenerative possibility comes from. But how do you how do you talk to somebody who’s having resistance to that?

Taj
Yeah, like someone who’s like, I want the results very quickly. I’ve got bills to pay like

Cait
Yeah, or I don’t want to I don’t Yeah, it’s right like to go between luxury and beauty. Again, like it’s a luxury to, you know, just like stare at a garden and try to figure out like nature’s codes like I need. I need to make money and I don’t mean somebody who’s like, you know, Is families about to be like evicted. And on the street, I think there’s a time and a place. But like for, you know, for women in this industry who are like, I want to grow faster, or I want to see a result. What would you say to them?

How to approach someone who has resistance to going inward

Taj
You know, I’m a storyteller, I share a lot of my own stories and experiences, I think that’s also a projector thing. So, you know, I share with them very candidly, and honestly, my story, because it’s how I started, I was like, let’s go, I was making $3,000 a month in an apartment in Portland. And I was like, I have no idea how I’m going to pay for my rent. But I invested in a course. And, you know, fast forward three years later, you know, I, my, my business, you know, took off. And there were so many pieces that got missed so many big pieces that got missed, and I know, you could probably relate to this probably the first three years of your business, you’re like, oh, this works. Oh, that doesn’t work. Oh, okay, this, we’re doing this, you know, like, you’re still kind of like talking yourself into the fact that like, you’ve committed and you have these points, you’re like, well, I could get a 995 job, or I can just like, throw, throw in the towel, you know. And, you know, I really like to share these stories, because I think we find a lot of, we see a lot of ourselves and other people’s stories, you know. And so I do often share my stories of and I’ve had clients recently that have gone into other masterminds, and they’ve done all these things, they’re doing well financially. So they’ve like, totally taken off with their finances. And then I meet with them again, and they’re like, I’m so depressed, I’m so unhappy, I feel burned out, I feel like I don’t have time to do what I love to do. And I’m like, Okay, this is what you need to do. You need to slow down when you think you need to speed up, that’s when exactly when you need to slow down. And I’m learning this myself. Because there’s so much of that pressure. It’s just, it’s so what is weaved in our, on our planet, you know, unless you’re like a Buddhist meditating in a cave, some of my French I do know people who do that. But, you know, the reality is like, we live in a very fast paced world, we want things, we want them quickly, we want them now and we want to see the results. And one of the things that I’ve learned for myself is, I also think people need to learn their own lessons, I really do, I think that they need to experience it, it’s like telling your kids and not put the fork in the socket. And sometimes they actually need to do it. And they’ll never do that again. Yeah, you know, hopefully, your kids aren’t doing that. But um, you know, I share these stories, and I share the stories of, you know, me wanting to get to this point. And when I get to this point, everything will be better, and I can rest and I can relax, and I’ll be happy and XY and Z. But the truth is, it’s not even about getting to that point, it’s so much about the journey, because Tomorrow is not promised the next week is not promised. So, you know, really sink into. And this is again, like if we’re being in our integrated feminine, it’s sinking in and going deeper into the moments of today. And that’s how we can actually access more of that Earth twist. And that’s how we can actually see more of our shadows is that we can go deeper and deeper and deeper into the moments that are presented to us and embrace them and welcome them, instead of running away and trying to get to point Z. When you know, you get to point Z, you’re burned out and you’re not happy, and you miss so many things that were you know, you thought that you would experience when you got to that point. But now it’s like, it takes months for you to recover. You know, because your nervous system is burned out. You know, you’re having health problems, and I’ve done it, I’ve done it so many times where I’ve, I’ve said I’m gonna get to this point, and then I’ll, and then I burn out before then, and then I’m out anyway for six months. You know, that’s why it’s it’s so it’s it’s really, you know, it’s complicated. It is it’s complicated. You know, I wish I could give someone like a very clear like, this is what you do. And this is how you do it. Because I think people don’t want to hear it sometimes. And that’s why I do believe that our souls need to have these experiences to actually see what we’re here to learn, and how to be more present with our lives and to be more present with our journeys.

Cait
You know, yeah, I love that. And I love that I love the like pressure that is removed from that of like, you needing to like save anyone from anything. It’s like you your soul can go on this journey. And you will, you know, I’m like thinking of that analogy, even though like the thought of Ellis sticking a fork into a sock, it really makes me want to cry. But I totally get what you mean. And like sometimes they have to fall down and they have to have the experience of Ouch. Like not that I’m not going to do that again. And then just two or three times. Yeah, yeah. But that’s so perfect. And I just think that’s such a powerful, a powerful reminder to all of us to have be be in the inquiry of like the learning that’s unfold thing and like sometimes falling down or experiencing pain or realizing, Oh, I don’t want to do my business like that. Or if I do push past my nervous systems limits, I’m going to burn out. And I don’t want to do that again. So let me find a better way, I think there’s a lot of wisdom that you’re sharing in letting some of those lessons come through to inform how we move through the world in a different way.

In this episode, Taj tells her story of transformation and regeneration. She shares the huge part that regeneration plays in her life in all aspects, what the Beauty Way is, and why it’s so important to get to know your Inner Man and other masculine archetypes within yourself. We discuss resistance and transformation and why it’s so impactful to look inward, and what success means to Taj.What success means to Taj and why she believes success looks different for everyone

Taj
Absolutely. And a big lesson that I have learned as well is my success is not going to be similar to your success, and your success is not going to be similar to my success. And I think one of the most foundational things even before you invest or start a business, anything that’s going to require a little bit more of your time, attention and energy presence, is to get really clear about what success means to you and what your values are. Because when we go into this space, or go into the spaces of development, personal development and transformation, growing and wealth, it’s, it’s just it’s very natural for us to go into comparison and to try to keep up with that, because it’s primal, we want to be included, we want to be a part of the tribe, we want to be with, like kind. And, you know, I found that, like, my million dollar goal, I don’t know that that was actually what my soul wanted my mind, my mental aspect of myself wanted that. But that also pushed me again, beyond my own unspoken boundaries, you know, and then that creates this dynamic where we lose rapport with ourselves, it wears down our confidence and our self esteem, and it makes it a lot harder to get back up for not honoring that within ourselves. And that’s why I think it’s really important to get clear foundationally foundation like foundation foundation, I like what is success to you success to you could be making $100,000 a year in you. And for some people, that’s well, you know, it can be making $100,000 a year working two days a week, all private sessions, and you have a flower farm, or you’re investing in other businesses, or you know, whatever sucks for you could be a bang in business, we have a lot of PR, you’ve written books, you know, like, there’s a lot of goals, I think that we adopt that aren’t even ours. And so that’s how we get to these points where we’re sitting on a mound of money, and we’re feeling incredibly unhappy.

Cait
Yeah, yeah. So powerful. I think that’s such important wisdom and medicine to really come home to what does success actually mean to you? And what does it look like for you? And how do you want to then go about creating it so that you don’t end up chasing the wrong dream and the wrong goal? Has this is so beautiful, I feel like we could have like a five hour conversation I really do. But for our listeners who are new to your world, where can they follow along with you get more of your content, your medicine, your wisdom, where can they connect with you?

Taj
Yeah, well, everything is a fresh and a new. Yeah, you can just connect with me on Tosh dot savatree on Instagram. I do have a really awesome podcast. It’s just season one from like a couple of years ago, but I find that people still get a lot of benefit from it. And it’s called true nature. So you can find that on everything. Spotify, Apple, iTunes. Yeah, Instagram is probably the best place for right now.

Cait
Amazing. Well, we will put those links in the show notes guys, if you’re listening to this and it really resonated with touches message I just feel like so yummy. Now I feel just like a big pile of wood away and the flowers. Literally I like want to go outside Taj thank you so much for your generosity, your beauty, your wisdom and the message that you’ve shared with us today. It’s so so powerful. Thank you

Taj
Thank you so much.