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Episode 131. Healing the Receiving Wound & Nervous System Business Growth with Ana Kinkela

Episode 131. Healing the Receiving Wound & Nervous System Business Growth with Ana Kinkela

Cait Scudder
I am so excited to be having a conversation with you here tonight. Just got off of an epic call with my seven sisters mastermind. Oh my gosh, these women. So juicy, so good. And one of them. Miss Ana is coming on to talk about what the heck nervous system regulation, nervous system healing, nervous system work and money, receiving, business, what these have to do with each other and so on. There she is. Hello Ana. Longtime, no see. I was just telling them that we just finished in seven sisters call. So juicy, so freaking good. And I’m so excited to be bringing this conversation to both of our people, crews, talking about what in the heck, the nervous system, regulating our energy, looking at our capacity to receive, and how this is like so profoundly connected to money and to success in business. It’s very revolutionary. It’s very different from, you know, a lot of the other like masculine ways of doing business that we’re taught. And I just think that you are like ushering in the revolution that the world needs. So I’m so stoked that you’re here for our people who don’t know like who you are, what you do, what you’re all about, like, talk to us about who you are, and just give us that like high level glimpse of what you do and what you’re all about.

Ana Kinkela
Yea. So I’m Ana Kinkela, and I am a somatic business mentor and energetic Alchemist for high achieving women. So the core pillar of what I do, I really support leaders to scale their business with nervous system business growth. So really, what’s your body with attention to how your nervous system feels good with pleasure with ease, and I help women seal the receiving wounds because I see the receiving wounds show up so much with entrepreneurs. And that’s really the core of the healing work that we do to get the nervous system into a state of expansion where you can receive and hold more and more inside of your business in a way that feels really really good, right? Without burnout.

The receiving wound and how it can impact our success

Cait Scudder
Yes. Oh my god, I love this. Okay, so for people who are like, this is so juicy, but like, what is the receiving wound? Can you talk about that a little bit? Because I think like, we hear that, and so many of us feel like this instant recognition or this instant knowing of like, oh, yeah, I think I have that. But I don’t necessarily talk about it in a day to day. I think so many of us, especially as women, we don’t even necessarily know that we’re carrying a block around receiving or we’re carrying baggage around that we’re carrying and energetic that feels like clunky around that. So talk to us about what what is the receiving wound? Where does it come from? How do we like start to unravel that?

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, it’s a great question. The receiving wound does a lot of different things, we can certainly talk about it in terms of like receiving money and how safe we feel to receive a lot of money. We can also talk about it in terms of like safe to receive support, and save to receive love. And one of the things that I see happen so often that when I’m working with entrepreneurs on their money stories, we’re actually also working on their relationship and how safe they feel to receive in their relationship. There’s so many correlations with how we receive in our life to how we receive in our business. And, you know, we could talk about like scarcity mindset, which is part of where the receiving one comes in. It’s like we’re closing off. We’re afraid we’re in sheds. I too receive and a lot of women actually have so much stuff around fear and anxiety around receiving a lot of money or isn’t any money. It’s not just mindset, but it’s like how open is our nervous system to receive from a place of pleasure and ease without the hustle without the grind? We always feel like we have to work really hard to receive support, love money, all of this. And the receiving wound is like this, you know, this idea of what we have to do who we have to be, in order to receive our desires.

Cait Scudder
Oh my gosh, that hits so deep and so much and for whatever reason, it’s like when you said the thing about how connected it is relationship, I feel like that is so true. I feel like how connected it is in like sex, like, how I mean, like, I don’t have this now. But like, in past relationships, like feeling so hot, like, I’m taking too long, like, he’s gonna get annoyed, like, I just should fake it or like, you know, like, it’s so connected of like, who am I to just like, lie here and feel good, or who am I to just like, take up this much space or so that all many, like different ways that that is so interconnected. But the other thing that came up for me as you were talking about how much the receiving wound is connected to receiving money, but also receiving in relationships is like, the fear of if it’s this good, if I let this much good in doubt, much can go away. So it’s almost like the form of protecting myself to not let myself receive this much good because this much good means I’m going to lose more. And I’m going to be the higher I rise, the harder I’ll fall, it’s like this lie of like, if I receive a lot, I’m gonna lose a lot. So better, very little. And then I’m gonna just protect myself.

The pleasure edge and allowing for expansion

Ana Kinkela
Yes, 100%. Like it’s the nail on the head. I think the edge that I see for most women is that it’s actually being able to hold all of the goodness from their life and be able to actually acclimate our nervous system to something feeling easeful and good. That’s kind of the biggest hurdle in terms of like expansion that doesn’t burn us out. We’re always kind of like, needing that receiving edge of like, How can I receive this, but in a way where I get to feel so good, and who am I actually when I’m not like struggling? When it doesn’t feel so hard? There’s always like this place of I have to prove myself in order to receive it. Whereas like, how would it be for you to just receive because you are, because you are all that you are. And you get to actually just allow yourself to kind of like, receive and open from this place of like, I am worthy. I am in my bigness, and I get to receive whatever I desire, however I desired to receive it. So that’s always like the biggest hurdle to come over, especially when women are scaling their business. It’s never about like the shadow. It’s always about like, how much goodness can I hold? How much can I actually hold this expansion in a way that feels truly good for me?

Cait Scudder
Oh, it’s like meeting that like pleasure edge? It’s like meeting that, like, How good can I let this be?

Ana Kinkela
That’s exactly what I call it. I call it the pleasure edge.

Cait Scudder
Oh, my God,

Ana Kinkela
My pleasure edge system, and how can we allow you to stretch into it and to really hold that in a way that feels so so good, and acclimate your whole body and nervous system to holding it.

Cait Scudder
Oh, my God, I love that. And what a testament to how embodied in this work you are I’m like, it feels like the pleasure edge. That’s exactly what I call it I’d like oh, yeah, I pick it up those vibes. That’s so good. I love that. That’s literally what it feels like. And I mean, it is so revolutionary that you work with women on number one even like figuring out what that edge is. But number two, like having a relationship with it, not running away from it. And I mean, you also are pioneering this from like your own trailblazing way, you just celebrated a $52,000 freaking cash month in your business. Talk to us about that pleasure edge for you, sister.

Ana Kinkela
Oh, my God. Let’s continue with celebration. And yet, we welcomed in 52k cave for a month. And it’s just like the amount of expansion that I feel in my body. I just feel it vibrating out. And I think I’m also applying my own tools in this very moment of how do I actually allow myself to ground into this to integrate this to feel it fully. Because I think it’s so easy to just like skip over this part and just kind of keep on going without allowing our bodies to really settle into it. So I talked about this on our call that it’s just kind of I feel like it’s not quite real yet. And so, you know, all of the energy is still up here. So like feeling the celebration of it, and just alllow myself to really soak it in, but it was just such a huge month and just value all of your support. It’s through this whole process.

Cait Scudder
It’s been so beautiful to like witness you in that and of course the universe would deliver your engagement, $52,000 month, freaking 60 Plus person like line out the door of a program that’s full like knocking on the door, like massive growth and momentum because you are doing the very work that you’re doing. It’s like cool. Honest teaching, pleasure edge, like, we’re gonna need backup like. Let’s take her ride her edge like, all forces in then because it’s like when it rains it pours and we are in like a freaking deluge tsunami right now because it’s just like pouring and I love that that’s like, unlocking for you even deeper embodiment of this work that you’re such a master of and it’s so it’s so cool to witness you go through that and to know like, oh, that’s exactly why this is happening because like her capacity is getting massively expanded because like your reach your impact, the body of this work is meant to go far and wide.

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, 100%. I mean, I just have to tell you, you know, started working together in July and August, I started really tapping into I think I’m going to have a 50k a month by the end of this year. And I was at, you know, like, between 10 and 15k. And then I started having 21k, so no consistent months. And I was just working with the 50k in my body and my nervous system. I was like, we know that it’s coming. I know that it’s here. And I was like, oh, maybe I’ll get to it in December. And then all of it landed all at once. I think it’s actually such a testament to how when we allow our bodies to become safe with receiving at a certain level, it just kind of like all lands in a way that you couldn’t have even planned. And I think that’s the magic of working with the body is just like the expansion that’s available to us when we actually allow the body to lead when we just like listen to what our edges and work with our edges, it lands things into your reality that don’t make sense. Because in my mind, it doesn’t make sense that I got to this amount, and yet it happened. And it all synchronize together in such a beautiful way where I also got an exhausting weekend and his beautiful, beautiful love and support and just no monetary expansion happen.

Cait Scudder
I’m obsessed with all of this. I love this so much. And I would love for you like for our listeners who are tuning in and are just feeling into like, Oh, I love what she’s saying about listening to the body. I love how you said, you know, we started working together in July, you started feeling that 50k in your periphery, but feeling it in your body? And what would it feel like to actually be in that in your body and working with that energy in your body? Like for the women who are hearing that? And like how do I even know how to feel that in my body? Because I think a lot of us like we work on screens, we sit down all day like we don’t and not all of us do that. But a lot of us do and like how do you and obviously inside of all of like your juicy offers you go into this in such detail. But I would love for you to give us like a little like, appetizer, hors d’oeuvre of like how women can find their way back to using the masterful tool of the body to work with that financial up level. So because you did not, it’s not like you, you know, sat down at your desk opened up Excel sheets and like spreadsheeted your way to a 52,000 cash month. That’s not what you did. And it’s not even like we were like, Okay, what are we going to like, strategically? You know, numerically in order to.. it was like, Cool. Are you ready for it? It was so much body energy. So for somebody who’s like, how, how, how, how give us like the, dummy version of guiding our way coming home to the body to really allow massive expansion?

How to listen to your body

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, yeah, that’s a great question. So I mean, I think like, as you said, we are really taught how to be profoundly connected to our bodies. There’s just a lot of things that our bodies have gone through a lot of the experiences that we’ve had, that our ancestors have had, that have just disconnected from our bodies, and have made us feel unsafe to be here. And so we all just kind of function from this headspace. And so that’s true of everyone. That’s been true of me. It’s like a practice that I enter into all the time. And so I think if you are just beginning to really step into this work, it’s about how do I actually develop relationship with my body and ask my body, what it means what it desires, what it wants to do, how it wants to be every single day. I think as you step further into it, the way that I practice this on a very simple level, is I actually do a lot of work with my cosmic egg which is a space that’s located in the womb space, and everyone has access to that. Whether you identify as a woman or as demand of it doesn’t matter. It’s the cosmic egg that’s just like two fingertips below the belly button and a finger length into the body. And I really work with different money levels within that space. So I fold different money levels inside of my wound space and inside of my body, and just kind of notice on a very subtle level, how my body reacts to every single amount that I hold. So if I’m, it’s a kind of a process of play with money. And so you’re kind of determining where is my body’s at, you know, if I pull 10k, does 10k..do I freeze when I hold 10k? Do I freeze when I hold 50k per month or 100k per month, where does the freeze response happen in my body where I like numb out? And where’s the space where I feel excitement in my body, but also like the sense of fear in my body? Just like that little tender, like going up against some type of edge within me. And so kind of playing with different numbers within my body all the time, and just kind of noticing where I am with them. And so as you start to go into this work deeper and deeper, you’re gonna start to notice how your body responds to all of these different levels of expansion. And it’s not just about the money, like the energy of what is held in your body also represents like who you are, be at that level, you’re in school, it’s the identity that we’re holding at that level. And so there’s a way that your body just naturally understand that this is not only about this monetary amount, but it’s about who you are, who you’re stepping into the bigness level that you are rising into. And so it’s determining really, where’s my edge, and being willing to be in a space with your body with that edge your body, and letting yourself breathe into it. It’s just a really simple practice. But how can I breathe into this edge? How can I allow my body to expand around the edge and hold that in a really useful way? And so one of the things that I found through my own journey with it is that I just get to a point where I exercise my body in that space enough where my body is just excited by it when my body is turned on by it, where my body’s like, let’s go. And that’s the space where you know, you are an energetic match for that amount. It should be a matter of time before it actually lands into your reality. That was my experience with this 50k month was like I felt such excitement was expansion. It felt so good, I didn’t have fear. And then it just landed and happened.

Cait Scudder
Oh my god, I love all of that so much the cosmic egg that is so beautiful. And like Oh, that feels so juicy. I want to do that. That sounds so beautiful. And so just helpful on a like grounding, tangible practice for people to do for people to become aware of, and drop into. I love that so much. And there was like a moment when you were talking that I literally felt like I was going into labor. It because it literally reminded me of like, actually being in labor and like the whole thing of like when you’re dilating. It’s like, and especially when the baby’s like, starting to crown, it’s like, you’re literally like going to that fucking edge where you’re like, I cannot possibly expand any more. And this is obviously for something to go out, not come in, but you know, I can’t possibly expand any more. And then it’s like you meet that edge and you expand even more and you meet that edge and you expand even more and just that like capacity to find that new level of safety, find that new expansion and hold that. It really reminded me actually of, but this is like, it’s not surprising, because the process that you’re describing is like returning to this sacred, profoundly feminine way of running our business this profoundly feminine way of expanding capacity and like welcoming in and it’s just it’s so so powerful.

Ana Kinkela
I love that you have that association because it makes so much sense. It’s not only about receiving you’re actually birthing something out into the world. Like you’re birthing out different creations. You’re birthing out like this more embodied version bigger version of yourself that to the world. When you’re receiving you’re also actually like allowing something to flow out and you’re birthing something out at the same time.

Cait Scudder
Yes, I talked about this so much in bigger, it’s like your birth what’s what’s coming in is the money is the 50k a month, 100k a month, whatever the number is, but what’s being birthed is the identity of the woman who holds that with grace who holds that with normalcy who holds that with power. And that is a new version. That is a new woman being birthed. That is a new woman being welcomed. And yes, I love that you said that that like dance of it’s not just about I receive, and I have that money in my account and that’s what receiving is. Receiving is also experiencing ourselves as that expanded version.

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, it’s actually like, is generative receiving right, it’s not just like take it’s this natural cycle of give and receive that are the nature and that we also get to embody within our business. And so when you receive that way, it actually just gets to feel so, so good. And it’s just like this purely nourishing way of receiving in our life and in our business that our clients can also feel on this really deep level.

Cait Scudder
Yes, I love that so much. It’s so powerful, oh my gosh, I have goosebumps is like the juiciest, juciest conversation, I would love for you to share with our people like I imagine that. I mean, you’re such a natural, and this is so intuitive to you now, but I imagine there is like, there was a time that this didn’t necessarily come easily to you, or there was a time that you were running your business in a really different way, like, talk to us about what that felt like and how you found your way to really using the body as the guide as the tool as the gateway

The importance of owning who your are and your uniqueness

Ana Kinkela
It was not always this easeful. And I think, you know, it’s I’ve been in my business for about four years. And it was a huge struggle for me when I started out. And I think like the biggest disconnect for me was that I wasn’t owning who I really was, my own unique medicine, and I wasn’t owning what actually felt good for me to do in my business. I spent a lot of time being in the energy of “shoulds” even when I didn’t think I was in the energy of “should”. And it was a really interesting process to see how unconsciously I was like feeding into a lot of other people’s strategies and a lot of other people’s ways of being successful in business. And I was really afraid to come out and be who I actually am in my business and like say the things that I really wanted to say for fear of being like judged or for fear of rejection, or for fear of like doing it wrong. And so the moment that I really allowed myself to step out and to say the thing and to talk about my mission in a way that was really fully mine. That was about my background and like what I was really passionate about. Which has always been the nervous system like I’ve always done nervous system work with my clients, the body has always been the space that I’ve worked in. But I’ve never really grounded that in in a very tangible wait for my people. I was never like very clear in the way that I spoke about it. And I wasn’t clear in who I claimed myself to be. And as soon as I allowed myself to be in my bigness. As soon as I allowed myself to really claim who I am, and also just like what felt good to me in my business, how I wanted to run it, and how I wanted to show up. That’s how everything started to shift it was like something began to really ground into me and allowing myself to just be who I am without comparing myself to others the biggest game changer

Cait Scudder
Oh my god I love that you are saying this and I’m like grinning ear to ear over here thinking about this because how much of the time do we spend so much time so much energy like trying to mimic what is really working well for her over there and her over there and that really successful woman over there. And it’s like we’re we’re taking the really long route to success when we do that, because mimicking somebody else’s authentic expression, somebody else’s authentic medicine not only distracts you from actually doubling down on your own best asset which is your your own unique medicine, which is being clear about the unique perspective, gifts, lens that you bring to the world. It’s like obfuscating your people’s ability to resonate with you. And I just love so much that you just said and that you talked about like you’ve always done nervous system that the body has always been the guide but when you really let yourself center that as opposed to being like well, she’s just talking about marketing over here. So I’m going to talk about marketing. Or she’s just like giving mindset pep talks, so I’m gonna do that. But when you really let yourself come home to what your medicine is, and what your gifts are. That’s when things started to blow up. That’s when you know your people started to find you. And it’s such a powerful reminder for everyone who’s listening now on the replay, you know, to let yourself really be seen, and to forget all of the shoulds all of the story of who you think you need to be, because who you actually are, is the movement maker.

Ana Kinkela
Yes, yeah. 100%, Yeah, the movement piece of that, I think is so important. Just like, you know, what your movement is, and claiming that fully. And also just like coming at it from a true place of desire. Like, I think that that’s what changed for me. It’s like, I stopped giving my power away to like this coach giving me the answer, and really allowed myself to step into containers from a place of desire, and allowing myself to, you know, be inspired by that coach, but to not look at what they were doing, and really allowing myself to come into, like, what feels good for me? How do I desire to be in this space?

Cait Scudder
Yes, it’s kind of like when we enter into, I mean, like, everything is tying back to relationship in this conversation. I love it. But it’s kind of like, when we fall in love, you know, we can like be so in love and like, have part of our identity be me in this relationship, me x person’s partner. But like, we can’t become so enmeshed that we forget who we actually are. And that I just hear that and I mean, that happens so much. And then on the flip side, like a lot of coaches market. This is something I really have a pet peeve with, but market, into that feeling of like, I’m not empowered, I’m gonna just like plug into your power source coach. So I love that you’re speaking to shifting this feeling of like, I don’t have the answer. She must have the answer. I need to hire or watch or learn in order to be powerful. Really unlearning that, remembering no, I’m already super powerful. And I’m choosing support, mentorship, and people in my corner from a place of wholeness, not a place of brokenness and needing to be fixed.

Marketing from a place of desire versus fear

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, that’s huge, honestly. And one of the things that I’ve really started to do my own marketing is that I want you to say yes to this from a place of desire, not because you think you need us to be successful, not because you’re afraid if you don’t step in, that you won’t be successful, but because you really desire it. You know you’re powerful, and you want the support to help elevate you and rise even higher. That’s why I think the most powerful transformations happen in containers when you come into it from a place of desire rather than fear.

Cait Scudder
Yes, oh, my God, I could not agree more and like, the impact and the results are so much better. There’s not this inherent, you know, unspoken deal with the devil, like, you know, I’ve just like Ursula and Ariel, like giving her voice away kind of contract that’s happening of I’m holding your medicine, but I’m the one with the code. It’s like, no, no, no, you are the one with the medicine and that there’s no deal with the devil here. This is just about you being sovereign, being full, being amplified being held. And like, Where can we go from there? That’s when people really soar in containers, when they feel their fullness and also feel that reflected from the coach too. So I love that you are like pioneering that message and sharing that with your people. And it’s no surprise that people are like, lining up literally at the door. I mean, maybe not like literally at your front door, because that would be sketch. But literally at your digital door to work with you because it’s empowering as fuck when a coach gives their power, like an expert, a coach, a guru. And so many see you in your power, Ana, as that because you are, but when you from that place, return the power to your people. It’s like 10 times more magnetic, and it just creates this forcefield of profound trust, we feel and we realize that there’s like, oh, wait, there’s something different here. She’s not hooking me into working with her. She’s like, she’s holding the door open and like that, that feels different. I can feel the difference.

Ana Kinkela
Yeah. And I think that actually so beautifully ties into the receiving it. Because when we have a receiving wound, we actually sometimes feel like we need the fear tactics to like, pull people into this space. Whereas like, we just allow ourselves to open and to just speak truth of who we are and what’s available in the space and just invite people in from that opening within us. That true receiving opening within us. People feel that and people are magnetized to that. And so it’s like one way that I can see anyone can play out in marketing specifically. And when we actually shift into healing some of that within ourselves, it can actually open the floodgates so much more into our business because people are attracted to the power that like, they access when they’re in your energy, not because of like you say that that’s who they are. But because they feel it, they’re being invited into it. They’re being empowered into it.

Cait Scudder
Yes. Oh my god, I love that. So, so much. It’s so true and so revolutionary to think about how we can heal that wound in our marketing. And really like, the ripple effect is massive, because we feel differently, but our clients and the people that we work with and the way they especially for us, as business coaches, were teaching through our actions through our words, how to coach how to lead, how to sell through the way that we’re doing it not even what we say, but how we lead how we do how we be. And so the ripple effect is tremendous. It really opens up a whole new paradigm of leadership.

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, 100% and I’m caring for leadership that just like helps lift everyone up. And I know that like, that’s what you’re here for it too.

Cait Scudder
So good. I love it so so much on it for people who are like, Okay, this conversation is like the one that I’ve been needing to have for so long who want to follow along with your work, who want to dive deeper into nervous system healing for business like massive growth, healing the receiving room to expand their capacity for more money, bigger months, bigger business, bigger impact. How can people plug into your world?

Ana Kinkela
Yeah, well, I’d love for you to follow me on Instagram, first of all, because that’s where you’re going to hear about all my offers all the goodness that’s coming out, I did just finish up the nectar launch, my link for the waitlist is still in my bio. And I will be providing very special offer to all those on the waitlist who weren’t able to join this time around. So if you’re really interested in hearing more about that, and you’re like, wow, nectar sounds and BZ nurses and business spreads, sounds amazing, you could pop on that waitlist and you will have access to some juicy offers that I’m sending out to just that waitlist. And I’m going to be launching something new that’s coming up that I’m not talking about yet. But it is for specifically business owners who are really scaling to multiple six figures and beyond. And so if you are interested in that kind of container, where you’re really tapping into nervous system, business growth, healing the receiving wound, doing all that looseness and reached out to me individually over Instagram, and I will let you know about a very special container that’s coming out that I’m not talking about but like the yet .

Cait Scudder
Oh, so good. Oh my gosh. So juicy honor. Thank you so much for taking the time today to talk about this work and how much it matters, how profound the ripple effects are, and really giving some beautiful reminders of how we can come home into the body and use the body to really expand our capacity on so many levels. It’s so so beautiful. And yes to following the link in your bio for deets on the Nectar waitlist and it’s so beautiful to chat with you.

Ana Kinkela
Thank you so much for having me on Cait and thank you so much for your support.

Cait Scudder
Oh my god, I just adore you and I adore supporting you. And just knowing the ripple of impact that you’re having in this world and like, it makes me emotional. Honestly, it really does. Because it is it’s changing how so many women experience what’s possible for them. And I just love it. I just love seeing you fly. And I’m like, keep going, keep going. Keep going. And you will and I know you will, you know you will. And you know, I know you know you will. I am celebrating you and all of the things and so excited and can’t wait to hear more about all the juiciness that you’re bringing forward. So thank you so much for coming on.

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